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Sabtu, 09 Februari 2008

[childrensapraxianet] 2 yr old not talking- Janice

The baby is 18 months on the 11th of Feb and he has 3 word sentences now.

I was just amazed as I asked him Friday am if he had fun with grandma
last night? he replied and said "No, sit rock" Meaning grandma
rocked him all night. I know grandma had fun as she just had 1, the
other 3 were with me.

Also, I asked who is poopy? He replied and said "baby is" and he was!

He has lots of 2 word combinations, Hi Daddy , Hi Mommy- water now,
here, there etc..., can name all of his sibs, and attempts a lot of words.

There is a HUGE language explosion around 15 months and then again
around 2yrs old. It is so fun that he is experiencing it, unlike his
older 2 brothers.

I would push on the young couple as I was a young mom the first time
and didn't know to even be concerned.

Also the earlier therapy starts the better. #3 started therapy at 2yrs
old and is now 3 and close to being discharged - hopefully July.

#2 started at 3 yrs old and has at least 2 more years. We have already
completed 2 yrs UGH

#4 18 months - is just along for the ride and talking up a storm! He
attempted Cell phone the other day.

#1 is a wonderful high maintenance neuro-typical girl.

Heather

--- In childrensapraxianet@yahoogroups.com, "Colleen Somerville"
<colleen.somerville@...> wrote:
>
> Janice,
>
> I am glad to read this email, as this sounds an awful lot like Charlie.
> Charlie did start to talk and then stopped after MMR and Flu Shot. I
often
> find my self in situations like you did at your beau's house. Sometimes
> people reach out and ask for help, but then never follow though.
"The fish
> oil smells bad, or how long do I HAVE to do this?" are some of the
things I
> hear. For us we just did what we had to do for our little guy. We had to
> wake up to the fact that the MD and the Neurologist had diagnosed
him but
> sent us in a direction with no map.
>
> That is when I found cherub.org and read the late talker. I
contacted Lisa
> Geng and she kindly moved me along to some local people who are well
versed
> with Apraxia. A ST with Early Insights (local) she then told me
about Kelly
> Dorfman www.kellydorfman.com . I will email you off line my first 30
days
> with Charlie on the vitamin protocol. Then we moved right into DAN!.
>
> You have a great way with words and I am sure that you can gently
move this
> mother in the right direction. After all, you did email me and tell
me in
> the beginning that apraxia is a sign something else is going wrong. Yes,
> Einstein did not talk until he was like 4, but did he have biomedical
> intervention?
>
> By the way, Charlie's cousin, Ian, is 18 months and not speaking. I hope
> they get moving on this soon, as it looks like this is a combo of
genetics
> and envrionment.
>
> Grab this mother by the hand and I am sure that she will appreciate
it very
> soon. Make sure she has an open mind! Hope this helps!
>
> Colleen
>
> Mother of Charlie 31 months
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: childrensapraxianet@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:childrensapraxianet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Janice Scott
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:36 PM
> To: childrensapraxianet@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [childrensapraxianet] Re: Age equivalence chart for PLS-4?
>
>
>
> I do agree with this: when your child is small, the difference between
> him/her and other kids is marginal. As time passes and all of the
children
> mature, the developmental gap widens.
>
> It takes a little jump in grade 1 and a huge leap in grade 3. At
about grade
> 5, there is another huge leap. Before your know it, your child is
> 'noticeably' different. The way they move, speak, dress and approach
world
> problems is vastly different from other kids.
>
> If I could do it again...... I'd toss every penny I had into my 3
year old
> for when my child was 3...... his dyspraxia did not yet set him
apart and he
> was not yet so behind his peer group. Unfortunately because he was
not yet
> so behind his peer group, I foolishly believed the professionals who
told me
> that he would grow out of it.
>
> I think they tell you this because the child is social and otherwise
> seemingly very neuro-typical. Not only that, my child was the best
baby in
> the world. He never fussed, rarely cried and always had a joyous
smile on
> his face. He was just the sweetest little guy. I thought this was a
reward
> by the universe for previously having an extremely colicky baby in my
> daughter, but in reality..... my son was not 'hearing'.
>
> On this topic, a couple came over to my beau's house with their cutest
> little boy.... I mean just darn sweet.... and I fell absolutely in
love with
> him. This little guy turns 2 in April and after a while I noticed
that he
> had no words. Then I saw it..... and I gasped..... he started to
scoot on
> his bum instead of crawl. I turned to his young mom and asked, "Did he
> always do this?" She told me that her son rarely crawled and went
straight
> to walking...... I pray for this child and I pray that I am
wrong.... but I
> see dyspraxia all over him just by his developmental similarity to
Mark. I
> turned to his mom and said in a low key manner, "Oh, make sure that he
> crawls on his hands and knees when he crawls for bum scooting is not
good
> for children. They need to crawl to develop their central nervous
system." I
> commented further that I had to have Mark 'redo' crawling and
creeping at
> the age of 11.
>
> The child in 3.5 hours of Superbowl viewing did not get cranky once
and he
> never had anything but a wonderful smile on his beautiful face. But
in that
> time, I heard no Mamma, Dadda, juice, No or other words...... I may have
> heard him whisper a couple of slight words.... at the most one or two.
>
> Now, I don't know these people well. They are a lovely young couple
and the
> husband works for my Beau at his lawfirm. This kid is absolutely
gorgeous.
> While I don't want to be alarmist, this child should be speaking in
2 word
> phrases by now, right? Or he should at least be going mmmmmm or ba
ba ba or
> something!
>
> All he seemed to say was 'eeeeeeeee'.
>
> Those of you who have apraxic babies.... please advise for I have
forgotten
> the relative stages for the ages.
>
> Also, how do I tactfully give this couple a copy of The Late Talker?
I do
> have a really 'cool' set of Talktools Straws that serve to
strengthen lip
> tone that I could pass on....
>
> What would you do? This has really been bothering me and my conscience.
>
> Janice
> Mother of Mark, 13
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bscmommy
> To: childrensapraxianet <mailto:childrensapraxianet%40yahoogroups.com>
> @yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:04 PM
> Subject: [SPAM][childrensapraxianet] Re: Age equivalence chart for
PLS-4?
>
> No your son "isn't getting worse", but, as your child gets older, so
> do all the other children that he is compared to. These tests take
> the scores based upon children with no issues, ie. a typical 4 year
> old can do x,y,z. Yes, there will be some deviation, but not much.
> As your developmentally delayed child gets older, the farther behind
> he will be....as compaired to typical peers. Thus the skew on these
> tests. This doesn't mean that your child isn't making progress, just
> that the progress isn't as exponential as typical kids.
>
> I hear ya - we just went thru the exact same thing with my daughter.
> I have this same test for her at 2 1/2 yrs old, and then at 6 yrs
> old. Her IQ dropped...or did it? She was scored very high at 2 1/2,
> but now, is showing much lower. The evaluator explained that it
> didn't mean she wasn't "progressing" but that the test was how she
> did as compared to other kids her age. We did the PLS-4, the
> Stanford-Binet and the Wexler (? not sure of the name on that one).
> We specifically did one test that was a non-verbal test. Of course,
> the language portion really brings down the other scores.
>
> Frankly, I don't care what the number is. She picks up things quick!
> and demonstrates things she's learned in a variety of ways - and over
> a variety of situations. She's got a sense of humor, and works her
> tail off. I only did these tests because I HAD to have them for
> school apps for the fall.
>
> Cheer up and hang in there!!
> Stephanee
> --- In childrensapraxianet
<mailto:childrensapraxianet%40yahoogroups.com>
> @yahoogroups.com, "debjward" <debjward@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Do you know where I could find an age equivalence chart for the
> > Preschool Language Scale Fourth Edition (PLS-4)?
> >
> > My son's speaking vocabulary is the age equivalence of 2 years 11
> mos
> > and his speech is the age equivalence of less than 2 years. My son
> is
> > now 4 years 8 mos.
> >
> > I was wondering what his auditory comprehension and expressive
> > communication age equivalence is. He received a standard score of
> 86
> > and a percentile rank of 18 for auditory comprehension which places
> him
> > one standard deviation below the mean. He received a standard score
> of
> > 82 and a percentile of 12 for expressive which also places him one
> > standard deviation below the mean. His total language score was 82
> with
> > a percentile rank of 12 which places him one standard deviation
> below
> > the mean.
> >
> > At my son's 3 years 8 mos evaluation at his private ST he was found
> to
> > be at 2 years 10 mos. His report said he had a mild vocabulary
> deficit
> > and now he has a mild to moderate vocabulary deficit? I hope he's
> not
> > getting worse!
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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